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31/3/2017

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Hey! Remember when I said last week that we'd be giving away Found Footage stickers this week? Yeah, well... maybe next week. It has been a trifle hectic round my parts. Also: we're getting ready for some major location filming next week, then it's into the studio the week after, so don't hold your breath. I'm still writing the scripts for those days, while also trying to hit work deadlines. But we'll try...!

​For those who don't get my Kickstarter updates, or can't be bothered to read them, filming is currently scheduled to continue until mid-May - to fit in the availability of the cast, and the locations that I've begged people to let me use. I'm still aiming for a late-May/early-June premiere, which should give me time to finish the editing, animation and sound.

I'm hoping to do something of a publicity blitz in time for the launch, so if you've got a podcast, or a blog or vlog, or write for a magazine or website... don't be shy of asking if I'll do something for you, like I am of asking famous people to appear in the show.

I'm so proud of what we're doing that I'd love it to be seen by as many people as possible. 


Anyhow, if you would like to appear on next week's page, or you've something you'd like me to give some attention to in our occasional Plug Zone - please send your emails for next week to this place here: digitiser2000@gmail.com
TOILET RHYMES
I have been sitting on the toilet contemplating children's nursery rhymes. There is a trend of changing the lyrics to make the children's songs more suitable for children.

​Why do you feel they changed the words to Ba Ba Black Sheep, but not to Ten Green Bottles when the latter is clearly a war chant against the peaceful people of the planet Vulcan?

A Passing Drunk
Well, that's a minefield that I'd rather not step into. Instead, press reveal for a special message from the most popular comedian on Vulcan, The Pe'dath'rah's Daddy:
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DON'T GINX IT!
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Have you ever watched Ginx TV?

Given there's a telly channel for everything, I always thought there was room for something dedicated to gaming. Watching it recently I'm not so sure. It seems to be lots of e-sports, and for the reviews you might as well go find game footage on YouTube, rather than seeing gameplay interrupted by the host's wrong opinions and terrible personalities.

There's no evidence of the slightest bit of imagination in any of it. Though I'm sure they are nice people and that doing 24 hours of TV about bloody video games is no doubt quite tricky.
Chris Dyson
I confess that what little I do know of Ginx TV hasn't inspired me to go out of my way to watch it. I've literally zero interest in e-sports (though Go 8-Bit manages essentially to make a fun comedy panel show out of it). Apparently, it's a cliche to say "Top Gear for gaming", but that is what I really want from a show about games; one which doesn't aim to appeal exclusively to gamers. Also: games content is frequently handled in such a dull, dull way.

I'm certain that it can be done well, and the way to do it - I think - is to bring games into the real world; too often, watching people playing games is just horrible, horrible, telly. Take it from somebody who has written a lot of kids TV; even now, in 2017, we avoid storylines which feature video games or computers, because seeing characters using a screen is just death.

You need to do the same with a factual entertainment show; recreate FPS levels in real life, turn one of the presenters into Super Mario, or have a race against the clock to navigate Los Angeles only using the map from GTA V. That sort of thing.

And - easier said than done - but let's stop selling the idea that the only people who play games are 24 years-old and beautiful. Get a bunch of mates together to present, so the audience feel like they're part of a gang. Stop trying to make games cool!

So much gaming content is aimed exclusively at the young, and yet there's a whole generation of us who grew up playing games, and are now grumpy and old. I just want a show that everyone can watch, which feels inclusive, but also acts like it doesn't give a damn.

When I launched Digi2000 I sort of felt initially that I had to compete with the young upstarts... then very quickly I realised I couldn't pretend to be 21 anymore, and that us middle-aged gamers were desperately under-served. 
GAMING MILL'S LETTER
I've got to go to Leicester later on today. I went to Leicester once before and ended up getting lost round some sort of covered market. There was a stall there that had a big sign up, written in marker pen in terrible handwriting, that read "WE BY STOLEN MOBILE PHONES" (sic). Never found out if they sold them too, but I'm guessing they did.

Also in that market was a stall that dealt exclusively in retro gaming stuff. I was quite interested in this but I picked up a copy of Alisia Dragoon for the Mega Drive, and it was so sticky I put it down and left.

Wandering off, trying to find where I'd parked my car, I ended up in some other market thing. There was a stall there that sold skinned sheep heads and another one that sold fish. The smell from the fish one sort of made me feel sick, so I went and bought a can of Tizer, then called my Smoking Brother.

​That being said, please find attached a photo of Bernard Cribbins that I took a few years ago. He was eating sandwiches whilst sat on the grass by Broadway tower. I've got one I took of Matthew Kelly in a sling in Stratford upon Avon too, but I can't find it right now.
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Oh, Tizer doesn't taste like it used to.

​I am fit and strong and that is all.

Gaming Mill.
True story: about 18 months ago I got my hair cut at a place I'd never been to before. Just before I sat in the chair a customer entered dragging a large suitcase, telling the woman who was about to do the cutting that he needed a trim, because he was thinking about leaving the country that evening. He seemed somewhat agitated.

“Mate, you don’t work in the film industry do you?” he asked me, breathlessly… “Er, sort of…”, I mistakenly replied.

This kicked off an epic, rambling, pacing-the-floor rant – which lasted the entire duration of my epic, rambling haircut (it had been quite long at the time) – about how he’d been screwed over by a film producer, who had promised to make a trilogy about his “unbelievable” life.

He told me how "dark forces" had conspired to leave him out of work since 2001, and that his suitcase was full of papers that could bring down the British Government. 

Further highlights of the story included the 12 months he spent in prison due to “a sexual conspiracy”, how he knew stuff about the establishment that would “blow your mind”. Sadly, the only specific aspects he could tell me about were that his story “involved a lot of gore, if you know what I mean”, and how he had trained the greatest police dog in the history of the Metropolitan Police, which had been “the size of a pony”. 

He even ended up leaving his telephone number with the woman cutting my hair, because she foolishly let slip that she was good friends with Vinnie Jones's sister. "Vinnie Jones would love to hear about all this," he insisted.

I wavered between thinking I was imminently due to find out I was on a BBC Three hidden camera show, and fearing he was about to grab a pair of scissors and stab me. 

Be honest: it was you wasn't it?
THE TAXMAN TAKETH AWAY
What would be the most tax-efficient way to donate to Digitiser?

I'm asking because you recently mentioned that VAT is deducted from your Patreon income. Fair enough: supporters get rewards, so are paying you for a service.

However, PayPal donors only get a warm glow of satisfaction. As Ken Dodd once said, I'm no tax expert, but aren't those exempt from VAT? You know, like Jaffa Cakes.

In the catering and service industries, discretionary tips fall outside the scope of VAT. Details are provided in HMRC document E24, which is surprisingly readable, and features these excellent words: "tronc" and "troncmaster."

So, if your financial advisor can confirm that PayPal attracts no VAT, I'll probably send most of my tiny contribution that way instead.
David W
Well... I dunno really, David, as it all ends up in the Digi2000 PayPal account ultimately. The two options are more there for the benefit of those who'd like to make a donation, and offers two options for doing so.

We have PayPal (digitiser2000@gmail.com, if you're interested) because I know some people would rather make a one-off donation rather than commit to something ongoing (which I totally get - it's scary to make that commitment, and then there's the social awkwardness of potentially un-making it somewhere down the line; honestly, I understand that circumstances change). 

In terms of what's better for us... well, knowing there's a certain guaranteed amount coming in every month does make a huge difference, and it's handy having the donor names all in one place. So, I guess I do prefer Patreon.

But at the same time, I'm grateful for all the donations we receive; big, small, ongoing, one-off. If it wasn't for our donors, I honestly couldn't justify the time I dedicate to the site; it exists and is updated as frequently as it is because of them. The several thousand of you who read Digitiser2000 for free owe them everything...
E! C! G!
What are your thoughts on Educational Computer Games? Educational Computer Games get a bad rap. They are usually of a basic and poor quality so this does not surprise me. But why is this?

​Why aren't they given the care during development that they deserve? Is it a financial issue, as developers assume there isn't much money to be made in the education sector?

The common mistake that most developers make is concentrating on the education aspect primarily and then just shoe horning in the gameplay as an after thought. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this matter.
Paul
I can't say I've played or even been aware of an educational computer game for many, many years. My kids had a few when they were younger - Putt Putt Travels Through Time, and The Magic School Bus and that - and loved them. So... y'know... the lesson here is that kids don't know any better, and will be entertained by any old shit. Therefore; why bother putting in the effort to make them good?
TWO BIRDS: ONE SHIV
I thought I’d kill two birds with one shiv and send you in a list of questions I’ve compiled from beauty pageants.

Fun for you and a real insight for the more dangerously obsessed among us.

Put on your white boots and gold coat, Love, it’s time to sparkle!
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  • Tell us about a time when you overcame defeat?
  • Do you think that social media has helped or hurt our society?
  • Who is your role model?
  • If you could meet one celebrity who would it be?
  • If you could meet anyone from history who would it be and why?
  • What is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to you?
  • What is your greatest accomplishment?
  • What is your biggest fear?
  • If I was a genie in a bottle and could grant you any wish what would it be?
Dean
What is this - Facebook?! Uh... um... UM!

  • I suppose it depends on your definition of defeat. I guess when I quit Mr Biffo the first time around, I felt defeated. And I'm here now. So... y'know.
  • Both. It has changed the world profoundly.
  • Honestly, I'm not sure I've ever had one. I always admired David Bowie for how - in his later years - he never seemed to court the spotlight. I've got a soft spot for any celebrity who seems to be in it because they enjoy it, rather than because they like being famous. I'm a big fan of modesty and humility.
  • I don't really have a yearning to meet any celebrity. I've met a lot over the course of my career, and they're just people, and like people they're a mixed bag; some are lovely, some are more of a handful. And "regular'' people can be just as interesting as someone who is famous. Often more so, because fame can have a weird effect. That said, I always thought Carrie Fisher would be fun to have dinner with. Also, Space Man Chris Hadfield.
  • History person? I dunno. Jesus.
  • A failed best man's speech about a decade ago, in which I attempted to use a projector and laptop - which went badly wrong, throwing my entire speech into disarray. I then realised I'd badly misjudged my audience, and in my nervousness made a terribly misjudged "joke". I'm doing another one later in the year. Have I learned my lesson? No. I just care less these days.
  • Not messing up my kids/maturing into someone I think is generally a good, grounded person.
  • I don't know if it's a fear, but I worry slightly too much about money. Also, that I'll grow too large for love.
  • Financial independence. No, really. It's rubbish that I'd have to choose that, but in our society money = freedom. Also: a proper holiday, which I really could do with this year, and can't afford right now.
IT'S "MULTIPLE QUESTIONS" WHYTE!
Which software developer would you say has produced the most good games? Are there any that you particularly admire?

So far are you happy with the Nintendo Switch? Is it better, worse or as you expected?

Have you tried phone-based VR and if so, what is your opinion?
John Whyte
Obviously, I likes me some Nintendo, and given their longevity and back catalogue... I'd have to say them. I do admire Naughty Dog for their storytelling and characterisation. Also Valve, if only for Portal and Half-Life 2. And, I suppose, Rockstar... but theirs is such a nihilistic worldview, that it does slightly put me off.

The Switch is better than I expected, because it's different to how I expected; it's weird how much I appreciate the local multiplayer-combined-with-portability aspect. That said, I'm mostly only playing Breath of the Wild on it, so it's really too early to call.

Yes! I have. In fact... I did a review of one such headset on the Digi2000 YouTube channel. It's fine... but not a patch on proper VR. And until you've done proper VR it's hard to describe just how powerful it is.
GLYN'S THEORY
A Found Footage question: of the two episodes we've seen thus far the opening shows a tape, is it that both episodes are on one tape or is each episode on a separate tape?
Glyn Heaviside
Oh man! All I can say is that you've given that aspect a lot more thought than I have, and that the theories in the Brannigan's Vortex Facebook group are interesting... but nobody has guessed everything yet... That said... I'm thinking that each episode is a separate tape, as they'll hopefully each have a slightly different feel from now on.
'CAST YOUR MIND BACK
Your article about the online gaming reminded me of my own short lived experiences of it on the Dreamcast years back and I can sympathise with your views.

I got Phantasy Star specifically to play online and for the first week or so quite enjoyed it building up my character and even met some helpful people online who showed me the ropes, helped me upgrade weapons and even just have me currency to buy better equipment. It was all going great until inexplicably my character became a girl called Ellie.

Apparently someone else had done this to me via some kind of hack/cheat. I tried to get back into it but was repeatedly met by sweary racists, who seemed to be playing just to type offensive comments and denigrate me .

I gave up on this soon after and moved onto Unreal Tournament, I thought this was great until I tried online, and discovered that I was crap at it. I was pretty sure everyone I played was cheating; they all moved so much faster than me. I didn't last long online with this, but had loads of great games on split screen with my mates.

This for me had always been the most fun, mostly because I'm just not as good as almost anyone online, and have got no chance to ever get that good. Also because that's how I'd always played multiplayer​ games since the days of Gauntlet and Double Dragon. If I'm honest I feel like I'm missing out with the whole online experience. I can certainly see the attraction, but as a busy dad of four I can't see myself getting good enough at any games to make it worthwhile.

Incidentally does anyone else remember Ikari Warriors? (A bit like another classic Commando). It's an old favourite from the early days of 2-player games. Simpler games but fond memories.

Hope all the Found Footage is going well, I always enjoy and appreciate the updates. Looking forward now to the next instalment,
Monkey Head
Cheers, Monkuss. Press reveal for a spoiler-y hint at some of the costuming I was doing yesterday. No really: this is a spoiler. Don't click if you'd rather go into the series knowing nothing.
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Lovingly adored Digi reader "Paul's friend Glenn" has a hella sick YouTube channel called Doctor Blockhead which he highly recommends that you check out and subscribe to. It features Let's Play videos, and at the end of each week explores old favourites with a 'Retro Sunday' video.

So (after you have gone and subscribed to Digitiser2000's own glorious nonsense) go and be entertained here:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfxsqkvuOqonXekZrr9dYQ
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41 Comments
Carlos Nightman
31/3/2017 10:53:52 am

Just about to run some mandatory work Java exam when this pops up. That's a fat 0 out of 30 for me then. Anyone know the answer to Question 6?

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Nikki
31/3/2017 11:17:44 am

System.out.println("This should never happen.");

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Carlos Nightman
31/3/2017 06:15:15 pm

HelloWorld!

David W
31/3/2017 11:35:14 am

Tax tedium follows.

It appears that Patreon deduct VAT before sending what's left to the Digitiser PayPal account. As far as I know, PayPal do not.

So if I'm right, using PayPal means 20% more money for Mr. Biffo to spend on crisps, mannequin parts, and legal proceedings against doughnut companies.

Of course, generous benefactors could do both. A regular donation on Patreon, and when feeling flush - for example, after being awarded damages for plagiarism - one-off amounts through PayPal.

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Mr Biffo
31/3/2017 11:39:51 am

Ah, interesting. See, I just give it all to my accountant and let him sort it out. Thanks, David - that's useful to know.

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MrPSB
31/3/2017 03:26:48 pm

Ah, the Jimmy Carr defence.

Mr Biffo
31/3/2017 04:53:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeGgLwD8wdc

Roy (Stuart N Hardy fan)
31/3/2017 08:31:00 pm

Be very wary of doing that, Mr B.
About 12 years ago my once trusted accountant got very lazy for his money and ended me right up in the shit.
I had to go to court in Horsham...farking Horsham!! For the grand total of 27 faaasand paaand. And all because I just chucked it all in an envelope to my accountant.
The Mrs was beside herself but after much tear shed she calmed me right down.
The good old Inland Revenue suggested we sell our house when I told them we couldn't raise 27 grand in the 2 weeks they gave us.
I believe my exact words were 'you've got more chance of playing beach volleyball with professor Stephen Hawking in an Olympic final.'
That didn't go down well in court but by that time I didn't care.
Long, boring story short, we got lucky and found a great accountant who wiped the debt clean.
The old woman does the books now since taking a course and very good she is too.
She'll happily sort out your tax problems but it's cash only.
Oops!

Mr Biffo
31/3/2017 09:18:18 pm

Fret not. My other half does the books, and the accountant is just there for peace of mind really. That sounds like a nightmare though. I'll be coming to you for advice if I do ever need a new accountant though...!

Roy (Stuart N Hardy fan)
31/3/2017 10:01:30 pm

It gave me months of sleepless nights and having to do a hard days graft too.
What all that worry did teach me though was to never give up and keep fighting.
Well either that or fuck off abroad.
Unfortunately, I got given a conscience.

Kara Van Park
2/4/2017 08:57:37 pm

Cheers for the info. Might change mine to to a yearly PayPal lump sum rather than Patreon taking a bite out of it.

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vaseline smooth
31/3/2017 11:48:32 am

Ikari Warriors, the first game I remember playing on the Atari ST. Lovely stuff

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Glenn kempsey
31/3/2017 12:21:53 pm

Thanks guys for the kind words hella awesome of ya

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RG
31/3/2017 02:00:30 pm

I meant to write in this week, but never found the time so this will have to do.

You kindly gave me a few Marillion recommendations to check out. I gave them a listen, and… I quite liked them. Much better than I had expected and much less indulgent. I doubt I'll go much further into their back-catalogue as there's too much of it and it seems like effort to get into a band with so much history. I will however say "Hey, Marillion are alright" should I catch anybody dissing them.

Your love of Marillion reminds me a little of a few of the bands I'm into. I've been a fan of Pearl Jam since they turned up. Got all the albums, a few framed posters, t-shirts, etc - I go to see them whenever I get the chance and was in the fan club for many years. I am however quite happy to grumble about them. I agree with a lot of the criticisms about them – they can be a bit serious and righteous, maybe not much fun. Some songs aren't great, a couple of their albums have been a little duff.

It's not that they're the best band - it's that I like them because I've always liked them. I buy their albums because I've got all the albums. When a new album arrives I have to buy it. They are my band whatever happens. And I'm happy with that.

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MrPSB
31/3/2017 03:27:13 pm

Ha ha ha, Marillion.

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RG
31/3/2017 04:56:33 pm

Hey, Marillion are alright

Roy (Stuart N Hardy fan)
31/3/2017 03:34:46 pm

Kayleigh.
And that's all I have to say about that.

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PeskyFletch
31/3/2017 04:55:54 pm

In fairness any band that makes something like rear view miror has a lifetime admiration from me

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RG
31/3/2017 04:57:05 pm

True dat!

Hamptonoid
31/3/2017 08:42:42 pm

You were in the fan club....did you get all of the Christmas 45s that they released? (and still do, I think). Are any of them worth checking out? I forked out a ridiculous amount for the 2002 one a few years back, it was like a double b side.

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RG
31/3/2017 11:55:59 pm

I've got quite a few and they're mostly naff to be honest. Maybe a couple of songs live, maybe a live cover. I think the early ones were better...

A kid called Dave
31/3/2017 02:03:33 pm

Biffo!

Gaming on TV is a godawful affair usually, Sir Patrick Moore aside, but..BUT..BBC Scotland were kind enough to throw a bone in the shape of Video Gaiden. Shame then to stick it on at bastard O clock in the morning at about the time News24 is being broadcast with sign language. But then because of nocturnal TV habits, I stumbled my way across a BBC show called Click. A hybrid Tomorrows World/ gaming thingy. Which enthuses about games enthusiastically. And then theres something on BBC3 with a pretty lady who knows her stuff and is generally watchable if you're able to get through the hyper editing aimed at teenagers.
All is not lost, old boy!

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Spiney O'Sullivan
31/3/2017 02:09:44 pm

I maintain that Bad Influence was good too. And I remember Bits being decent. Videogaiden was easily the best games TV show ever, though.

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RichardM
31/3/2017 02:51:39 pm

Nam Rood's tips and cheats FTW. Also the info-burst at the end: did anyone ever bother recording that?

Matthew Long
3/4/2017 11:15:02 pm

Yes Richard - I used to record the info-burst/datablast bit at the end of Bad Influence! I'm the only person I know of who could be bothered, though.

Mr Biffo
31/3/2017 02:15:15 pm

Yes yes. I back Consolevania on Patreon for precisely this reason. Also... I don't mind Click either. But it is, as you say, more of a Tomorrow's World/gadget-y thing. The BBC3? I have not seen that.

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David W
31/3/2017 05:25:42 pm

Now I'm hoping for Bad Influence! meets Xenoxxx in Found Footage.

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DEAN
31/3/2017 02:55:44 pm

Holidays... I fucking love holidays.

I also love hotels... I've booked holidays before just stay in a specific hotel and even stayed at multiple hotels in the same resort just to try them out. Not just fancy stuff either. I was well excited, for example, when I got to stay in a refurbished room at the Travelodge. Very nice, btw.

Favourite place so far?
Place you'd love to visit but haven't yet?

I'd love to visit Egypt for all the obvious reasons.

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Mr Biffo
31/3/2017 04:55:55 pm

Favourite place: Monument Valley. Place I'd love to visit but haven't... Tokyo. Specifically Tokyo Disney Sea.

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DEAN
31/3/2017 05:05:37 pm

I went there a couple of years ago - I'm not just saying this but it was probably the best theme park ever! The Japanese run it way better than elsewhere and, don't know if you knew this, Disney don't actually own it - a Japanese company license it and the other one from them.
Oh and it was originally destined to be built in California but was deemed too expensive - that says it all!

Utah? Yeah but that'd have to be part of an almighty road trip!

John Veness
31/3/2017 03:53:02 pm

After VideoGaiden/Consolevania, Video Game Nation was the best TV show of recent times, and it's a great shame it was cancelled. Strangely it was made by Ginx TV, but not shown on their channel - it was on Challenge instead. Apparently it was cancelled because Ginx wanted to concentrate on eSports.

Check it out on playlists from https://youtube.com/user/coldbladerising

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RichardM
31/3/2017 04:09:59 pm

I think the problem with eSports is that most games played at high level are fairly impenetrable even to normies who've played the game. I used to watch a bit of Starcraft 2 online when I played Gold League, but the strategies and stuff people used in higher tier play were almost incomprehensible. And even SC2 makes more sense because it's viewed in the third person... FPSes as eSports, with constant switches between different players with weird names, are entirely confusing and boring.

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Spiney O'Sullivan
31/3/2017 05:23:36 pm

I have tried watching the DoTA Invitational. It made no sense throughout.

In my opinion only games that really work as a spectator sport are 1-on-1 fighting games as they're simple enough to immediately grasp what's going on, with everything on one screen at once. They are usually fast enough to make the commentators pointless, though. For the most part those guys are just audience members with microphones.

Though even then, only some fighters work. Street Fighter is great, while Marvel vs Capcom 3 is an insane, confusing, seizure-inducing nightmare to watch.

Leigh
31/3/2017 06:52:31 pm

Videogame Nation did get shown on Ginx as well.

Ginx gets a bad rap, in some ways deserved, others not so much. Sadly anyone who's only just finding out about Ginx has already missed the good years of its life, now that it's chosen to specialise in utterly unwatchable eSports marathons. The three-minute review/retrospective snippets about hundreds of different games that used to make up the entire channel still show up occasionally, and some of them are genuinely well-written and watchable, but it doesn't seem like they're making any new ones. I will always go out of my way to watch The First Hour though.

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Starbuck
6/4/2017 08:13:12 pm

Agree. First Hour is great. However I hardly bother checking Ginx nowadays as the likelihood of eSport is high...

PeskyFletch
31/3/2017 05:06:06 pm

The best gaming show is the one where drunk irish people reminise about games they played when they were younger. It is on all 4

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Gp
31/3/2017 07:51:59 pm

These lively comments sections are why we need a forum Mr b

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RichardM
1/4/2017 07:58:41 am

I sort of half agree, but equally appreciate that forums need a lot of curating and can be a source of significant grief / drama. Even a more robust comments section would be good, but I'm pretty sure Biffo said that wasn't possible with the current site software.

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Starbuck
1/4/2017 05:12:07 pm

Comments above Forum for me - it's the way that things grow below each article, relevant or not, that helps make Digi2000 special!

Plus some joke about a funny thing happening on the way to the forum.

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SonOfPurple link
31/3/2017 11:42:44 pm

Troncmaster? Somebody's just found his rap MC alias...

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Roy (Stuart N Hardy fan)
1/4/2017 11:01:31 pm

This has nowt to do with video games and I might be guilty of being a little pissed up but me and the boy have been to Stamford Bridge today to see the mighty Crystal Palace F.C defeat the champions elect in their own back yard.
NA NA NA NA
NA NA NA NA
HEY HEY HEY
WILFRIED ZAHA....repeat to fade...

I'm gonna apologise to everyone on here on Monday morning about this.

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