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NEW YEAR UPDATE: DIGITISER SERIES 2?

3/1/2019

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Belated happy new ones to ye! Hope you all had a decent festive break, and it wasn't too mired in finally-stopped-work illness and family tantrums. I thought now would be as good a time as any to check in with happenings in the Digiverse, and what is being planned for 2019 - as well as inviting some feedback (always a dangerous game, I know).

If you're a Patreon or Kickstarter backer you've been getting regular insights, but not everyone is - so I figured it was worth opening this up to everyone. 

Here's a vague timeline for (some of) what I have on my plate - aside from the need to also earn a living - and the order I intend to get it done in:

Continue daily Digitiser2000 updates.

Finish sending out the Found Footage backer rewards, and upload the missing footage, bringing that project to a long-overdue end. 

Get Digitiser The Show Episode 1 re-uploaded.

Edit the backer exclusive episode.

Continue with ongoing Digitiser mini episodes - including filming some videos with my co-hosts.

Fulfil Digitiser The Show backer rewards.

Digitiser Live.

Digitiser The Show Series 2...


And it's on that final point that I would like your input. 
INPUTTING IT IN NOW
First things first... I know you want to be in Digitiser Series 2. I know this, because it feels like most of you have sent us messages asking if you can be in Digitiser Series 2.

It's great that you all thought the first series looked so fun that you want to be involved, but the reality is... we've been inundated, and we've barely even reached the foothills of planning for future series. We already have a great team that I'd want to bring back. If we do need extra help on series 2 then we'll put out a specific request for help, as I did a couple of times on Digi and Found Footage. 

I'm really hating having to reply to people saying "Thanks... but no", but chances are... it's going to have to be a "Thanks... but no", if only not to make hollow promises.

Many of you have also suggested filming in front of an audience, to help with the atmosphere. For assorted reasons, this is really impractical.

The nature of it means that we shoot more footage than we need - we're not scripted, we're a magazine show - so they're long days. The more people we have on set, who don't have a specific role to play, the more complicated the whole thing becomes, and it's already a complicated show with technology and the like to have to deal with. It also adds an additional pressure on the hosts and crew.

Plus, just personally, sometimes during the editing the shouted interactions from the audience were a bit of a headache to edit around. However, there is going to be a live show (possibly more than one), which I've just started planning... and I do acknowledge that an audience does help to bring the show to life a bit, so we'll be looking at a sort of compromise solution. More in due course.
CH-CH-CHANGES
​One of the things I want to change next time around is hiring an outside editor who can put together assembly cuts - and then hand it over to me for fine-tuning/Digi-fying. This is going to be costly. Firstly, because hiring an editor is costly, and it's a big job... but also because I want to shoot more episodes next time.

That said, I've sketched out a provisional budget, by planning through the benefit of experience, and having already splashed the first series budget on some big costs - such as the desk - I reckon we can, potentially, bring the next series in for slightly cheaper than we did the first time around.

The biggest expense, frankly, was my time; I spent almost four months editing (aside from the other planning which went into the shoot, and the pressures of running the campaign), for which I wasn't paid a penny. I can't afford to do that again, unless we somehow raise enough that I can afford to take the time off of my day job to do it. Which would be lovely... but seems unlikely. Not least because the crew need to be paid as well, and being at the top of the tree, I'm the one who will generally take the hit.

Ultimately, even if we do attempt to do more of the same for cheaper... this still comes down to money (a lot of people worked for nothing on series 1). 

I'm wary - but not completely averse - of doing crowd-funding again, for a number of reasons. In part, it was evident that at least a few of the backers didn't get the show they expected or wanted, which disappoints me because I want to please the backers first and foremost. It would be a relief to lift that pressure off myself entirely, and be beholden to nobody. 

Furthermore, backer rewards are... a pain. I've said this elsewhere, but the thing I want to be doing is creating stuff. I don't want to have to be a retailer alongside that. 

Aside from the cost of fulfilling rewards giving a false impression of a project's final budget - these things still have to be paid for and shipped - then there's the issue of dealing with those whose addresses have change, or because the item they received is faulty in some way, or... whatever. It's an enormous amount of admin, and even though I have my wife helping... it's still just the two of us doing this.
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O-O-OPTIONS
​So what are the options? The way I see it, there are four main ones:

BROADCASTERS
We were approached by a producer during the funding of series 1. However, he wanted a share of the format, an input creatively, and was pushing to spend the entirety of what we raised on a single pilot episode which would then be shown to broadcasters. Given that this route would've meant no guarantee of the series, it would've been a betrayal of what the backers had been promised, and I wasn't prepared to do that.

Admittedly, even with small backing from a broadcaster or production company we'd likely be looking at a significant investment over what we raised to pay for series 1. However, that would also bring with it the influence of producers - and would dilute our vision for the show. There would be all sorts of boxes that would need to be ticked, and I fear losing what makes the show what it is. We get it because we're gamers, and we know what we want to see. 

I've considered approaching somebody like Netflix, but that would still require approaching a production company first. Suddenly, when that happens, it potentially starts becoming a bit too much like a job.


SPONSORSHIP
This, I think, would be my preferred option. The backing of a company which could provide the entirety of the budget in return for nothing more than some not-too-intrusive branding. I'm terrible at business, so I'd probably need somebody - like a business manager - who could do all this.

PAYING FOR IT MYSELF
In a certain respect, this is ideal. I get to do it on my terms, as an ongoing endeavour, and the only risk is to myself.  

Obviously, though, I'm not rich. Even with what we raised on series 1, I ended up ploughing a lot of my own money into Digitiser The Show - and consequently, as I always seem to be at this time of year, I'm broke. I could work harder in the day job of course, but that leaves less time and energy to make the show. Though I'll still probably ending up spending my own money, you can scratch that probably. 


CROWD-FUNDING
I've a real love/hate relationship with crowd-funding. I'm deeply, deeply indebted to everyone who has backed me on Patreon all these years, and those who've invested so generously into Digitiser The Show and Found Footage, but as stated above... it brings all manner of headaches with it.

Nonetheless, it still seems like the easiest and most logical route forwards... but I think I have to dig my heels in against conventional wisdom, and eschew physical rewards. The reward - for any future crowdfunding - would be the show itself (though we might offer non-physical rewards, such as behind-the-scenes footage, credits, and the chance to be involved somehow - basically, no DVDs and t-shirts). 


Now... all of this is a bit of a stream-of-consciousness ramble, a way of me trying to figure this all out, but I'd really like to hear whether you'd back the show if we didn't offer physical rewards, so I can get a sense of whether it's worth doing. If you can help out with any of the other options... then even better.

​So, feedback welcome in the comments, or at digitiser2000@gmail.com - as to whether you'd back the show without physical rewards. I don't need to hear that you don't want to, as that's not helpful. I don't want to hear what you'd change, and what you didn't like, or what we "should" do. We don't even know exactly what we're doing yet, beyond it building on what we did for series 1 (between us, we've got a pretty good sense of what aspects worked better than others).

But I would like to get some idea of the support that's out there, so if you can spare a moment to help - that'd be great.

​Thanks, y'all.
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81 Comments
Steve
3/1/2019 12:20:15 pm

Digi The Show was fantastic! I am glad I backed it and I would do so again for series 2, 3, 4 and beyond. I'm not that worried about getting anything for my donation, other than to see a new series. All I want is to watch the show, Mr B!

Of course, I'm sure we'd all love a range of action figures based on the show. Plus a playset, like the old Castle Greyskull from the 80's, but of the Digi Set... Just a thought ;D

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Nikki link
3/1/2019 12:22:34 pm

Pretty sure the vast majority of us that have been asking to be in it are doing it out of pure cheek, knowing that you've most likely already been in touch with the peeps you want in it :) We understand <3

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Liam from Flamefamm Studios
3/1/2019 12:24:00 pm

I would say the Show looks set to have a bright future, I remember the days coming up to episode 1 not knowing what was even happening, only thing I was like was "if they say the SNES is better than Mega Drive I'll not be happy", now we're waiting for Series 2 which I'm excited for, same hosts, same location, all in a new series, who knows what could happen?

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Graham - Jaws19
3/1/2019 12:25:04 pm

I would happily back the next series without any physical reward. The show itself was what I wanted. That's reward enough.

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Craig Grannell link
3/1/2019 12:25:28 pm

In terms of the funding specifics outlined, sponsorship would be the ideal, I think, although god knows who you'd get to pay for everything. I'm reasonably sure Sega won't be banging down your door (unless it's their lawyers).

On crowdfunding, I think I'm an anomaly in not caring about physical rewards for media projects. Frankly, I have enough shiny discs. I don't need another. If I want a Digi T-shirt, I'll buy one separately. In fact, I'd prefer funding your show knowing that all of the post-KS money would go into production, and not potentially dribble away to DVDs and the like. But I also realise I may be in the minority. I do hope not.

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Mr Biffo
3/1/2019 12:27:11 pm

Thus far, you're not in the minority, Craig!

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Craig Grannell
3/1/2019 03:53:13 pm

Proof indeed the Digi readers and viewers are smarter than the average bear.

Dan F link
3/1/2019 06:33:36 pm

Yeah, Biffo will have to spend ages sending out thousands of DVDs for series 1 when he could be working on series 2-100 right now!!!

We need a new episode for every Sunday of the year... how much would that cost? :-D

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Chris Bell link
3/1/2019 12:37:00 pm

I’ll happily back without physical rewards; the show getting made is the reward itself. I don’t feel like I need a nicely branded trinket as a sweetener for that, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Non-physical rewards - like live show tickets - are of course always welcome though.

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Corrus
3/1/2019 12:39:13 pm

Put cash into series 1, loved it. Happy to put more into getting further series made. Not at all bothered about physical "rewards" like DVDs, t-shirts, etc. - the crowd funding should purely fund the show production. If people want/need show-related tat, get them to buy it separately. Just set up an Etsy or something.

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Wormy-Klaus
3/1/2019 12:42:07 pm

Sooo, it looks like:
Broadcasters: Beholden to producers who will almost certainly fail to "get it". Nope. What would be the point of making that show at all?

Sponsorship: Great if you can get someone to stump up all that money without being too intrusive or wanting a degree of creative control (to "protect their brand"). I don't know how likely that is to happen, though?

Paying for it yourself: Nope. You've got to eat, man.

Crowdfunding: Irritating though it is, this seems like the only option that will actually work. My suggestion would be to ditch the physical rewards but then (if people really want t-shirts and whatnot) to supplement those by getting your merch store up and running again. I notice the spreadshirt link is a 404 now. If you set that up again (with spreadshirt or some other site - I quite like Redbubble, as a creator-person who did a thing that warrants merch) you can pretty much just upload the designs and wait for the (admittedly smaller cut of the) money to roll in without having to do the extra admin around actually producing and posting them.

You could do like exclusive design stuff that's just up in the store for the duration of the crowdfunding campaign. Tell people to back the show, and then if they want to back it some more they can go to the store and get the "I backed the show" t-shirt. And if someone goes and just buys the t-shirt without backing the show, meh, they saved you some admin and earned you a few quid, so what does it matter that they're a BIG STUPID LIAR?

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John Veness
3/1/2019 01:52:22 pm

The spreadshirt shop is https://shop.spreadshirt.co.uk/digitiser/ now apparently.

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Dan Whitehead
3/1/2019 12:49:14 pm

I suspect a lot of people backed for physical rewards, assuming that paying more meant you were getting more money, and that was good. I'm not sure how many people backing those tiers desperately wanted whatever physical items were included, versus how many just backed for whatever maximum they could afford with the physical rewards as a bonus extra.

Having done a Kickstarter of my own, I never back stuff for physical rewards if the product itself is digital or online. I know it's more likely to distract from the thing I'm actually backing, rather than mean it gets more money.

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Mike T
3/1/2019 12:50:59 pm

I backed Series 1 without any physical rewards (although to be fair, only the £5 level) but I'm thinking that as long as the people who pay more get something like an ebook or backer-only download, it doesn't have to be physical. Personally, I'm well over CDs, DVD movies, DVD games and printed books now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

For those people who do want something physical like a t-shirt, how about some of those sites which do 'on demand' printing? I know there are some sites which are a bit cheap and crappy, but I seem to remember there was one site where people could upload their own designs, and if 10 or more people committed to buying one, then they went into production? Sadly I can't remember the name of the site though, so that's not at all useful.

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Hamptonoid
3/1/2019 07:25:53 pm

Redbubble do this and they're pretty good.

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Mike T
4/1/2019 08:56:52 am

I'd heard of Redbubble, but I thought their quality was supposed to be a bit rubbish? Admittedly that's based on hearsay rather than personal experience, so happy to be proven wrong if you've had a good experience :)

Spiney O’Sullivan
4/1/2019 11:45:28 pm

I’ve got a few Redbubble T-shirts and I’ve found them pretty comfy. They’ve definitely shrunk in the wash, though, but that’s my own fault for not doing a cold wash.

Hamptonoid
5/1/2019 02:26:53 pm

Agree with spiney. I took part in #vinylsanta over Christmas, someone created a design and put it on there, and a bunch of us purchased direct from RB. No hassle (apart from creating the design in the first place). Presumably the design owner gets a small slice, which could be a good option for biffo.

Craggar
3/1/2019 12:51:12 pm

I would definitely back without physical rewards - I don't need more discs, and like all USB sticks I've ever owned I'd lose one of those. The exception would be if I lived closer - I'd be tempted to back a tier than included live show tickets. Also, the show was so much better than I hoped that I would back it for a larger sum (I think I backed series 1 for £25, but I'd go higher this time round)

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Paul Shinn link
3/1/2019 12:52:30 pm

I backed the first series, but at the time could only afford to do so at one of the tiers with no physical reward. But having loved the first series, and finding myself a bit more financially solvent, I went and bought a t-shirt from your store to give you a bit more cash.

I'd happily back a second series with no physical reward and think that's an easier ask for a second series where the end result is less of an unknown quantity.

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Paulio
3/1/2019 01:02:03 pm

Crowdfund it and just make the show and some extra content for backers. I was delighted to receive an RGB cel as a backer but the reason I backed it was the show itself and it did not disappoint at all.

Plus I would venture to say that since he show was released it has gained more fans and this increased potential financial support.

Personally I don’t see the value in bringing in outside production companies for the reasons you have already outlined. I don’t know you personally but I do know that you would hate to have your baby changed or modified. It would be the latter Teletext years all over again.

In short, the way you did it worked, do that again.

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Craig Reaper
3/1/2019 01:06:11 pm

Most big universities have a media studies programme. Why not tout the production around those in return for placement wor?, i.e. not paid.

In return, the placement student(s) could put together a show reel based on their work they can quote on any future CV. You could host the footage on YT as private and only they & you can share that footage as required / based on permissions etc.

No? Okay, put down for twenty quid.

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Chris Arkas
3/1/2019 01:11:14 pm

I didn't back the first series because I was sceptical (and had no steady income) but I really liked the show and would back a second season. I really don't care for physical rewards anyway because I live on the continent and postage and post brexit tariffs are too expensive anyway for some tat.

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Nick
3/1/2019 01:12:10 pm

I only backed the DVD because that was at the level of cash I had. I’m not fussed of you don’t have physical rewards next time it won’t effect my pledge.

It appears that you have gained an audience bigger then just us lot on here so I would think you could generate more funds next time.

Finally, I can’t think of anything worse than being on YouTube so I’ll leave that to you extroverted types.

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Jim Leighton (Future World Darts Champion) x
3/1/2019 01:17:58 pm

I'd have Fat Sow as part of the panel/team if you opt to shuffle the deck every episode or so.

The funding part is tough, the broadcaster interest is (was) promising, I will happily donate without any reward if/when you go down this route again.



Get that black book of yours out, surely someone you have worked with would love something as different, funny, nostalgic yet mainstream like this in their portfolio.

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Mike C
3/1/2019 01:21:21 pm

I didn't back series 1 (I've never backed any crowd funding project thus far), but based on what was produced, would be happy to back series 2 - and as others have said, I wouldn't expect any physical reward, more digi would be more than enough. If you'd accept money from a filthy Amiga owner of course!

Seriously though, series 1 made me cry with laughter in parts, during what was a pretty shit year for me, which was most welcome.

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Kevin
3/1/2019 01:22:09 pm

I massively enjoyed series 1 and would crowdfund series 2 gladly. Personally I think bonus items and backer rewards like Tshirts are a distraction from the main event. In short - take my money now - moc moc!

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Sconner Campbell
3/1/2019 01:26:54 pm

I’m more than happy to find without a reward. Perhaps a mix of sponsorship for the show and no-reward crowdfunding could work. Let me know when you need my cash Biffo!

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FEoD
3/1/2019 01:28:13 pm

I would consider going in for another round with no promise of physical rewards. Perhaps higher tiers could get to chose Gamnons outfit each episode..?

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hoson biggs
3/1/2019 01:30:41 pm

id hands down back without rewards, physical or non physical. the show itself would be reward enough. moc moc

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neil
3/1/2019 01:33:51 pm

I backed the first series at a level without physical rewards(£15) and I'd back to that level or a bit more without them again.

Sending out loads of dvds or usb sticks sounds a bit like work that you're not getting payed for and I'd guess lots will get looked at but not used too much. As others have stated people were probably selecting the pledge level on the money being given rather than the rewards coming the other way.

Maybe really special physical rewards for very high tiers which only 1 or 2 people are getting which would be much less of a drain on you when it comes to fulfilling them?

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Grembot
3/1/2019 01:38:12 pm

FIRST! Oh I’m not first...then let me be the not first to say I’d back purely for the joy of getting more episodes. I’d imagine any crowd funding could be used in combination with sponsorship etc.

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HdE
3/1/2019 01:50:01 pm

I'd back a second season in a heartbeat if you crowdfunded it, Biffo. There's no need for addition swag via Kickstarter rewards. The show is ample recompense all by itself.


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Insincere Dave
3/1/2019 01:51:24 pm

Absolutely happy to back thr show without rewards, Mr B. Despite my name, these are my geniune feelings.

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Insincere Dave
3/1/2019 01:52:27 pm

Sorry, touch of the Zombie Daves there..

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RichardM
3/1/2019 01:56:43 pm

I’ll back regardless, as has been the case along the way: totally framing myself as a patron of the arts (farts?). The physical rewards honestly just languish in my office, to be admired occasionally. Would happily sponsor you if I was in a position to do so, eg. winning the Lottery. You do good stuff, Mr B.

Maybe approaching a broadcaster in the first instance to see how you go? Crowdfunding could be a backup. I obviously know nothing about anything to do with making TV, but I think the show was really good and that you all deserve a bit more from it: mainstream broadcasting might be a route to bigger things. As far as relying on Patreon or PayPal donations which you mentioned somewhere I think the whole Kickstarter / whatever framework probably lends itself to raking the donations in better. And paying for it yourself is not an option. Remember when you nearly died of stress a while back? Please don’t take that trip again!

Just some thoughts. Unlike possibly everyone else in the world I don’t want to be in Digitser: The Show, because I am a weirdo who doesn’t like talking to people he doesn’t know very much. I am glad that you’ll ask for help if needed, and would be glad to do anything I can (please note: I lack any transferrable, relevant skills, other than being an Associate Producer on Digitiser: The Show which was dead easy).

Fingers crossed it works out, whatever happens.

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Bruce Flagpole
3/1/2019 02:01:20 pm

I'm not interested in the rewards for backing either. I backed FF and Digi the show, both on fairly low tiers - partly cos I'm cheap, but also cos, in the nicest possible way, I don't need more tat lying around. I backed the shows mainly so you could make them.

Also, as much as you retaining control of the show should be key, I also don't see the harm in you trying to contact broadcasters, particular those like Netflix/Amazon prime. The worst that can happen is they say no, but there's always a chance that they may decide to take a chance on something that to them is a relatively tiny budget, and pretty much leave you to it in the hope it becomes something special.

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HdE
3/1/2019 03:11:27 pm

Actually, I think Amazon Prime Video Direct could be a really good fit for Digitiser the Show. The platform likes episodic content, and royalties are apparently pretty good. Quality needs to be pretty high for material to be accepted, but Biffo and the crew have got NO worries on that score.

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Iain McNulty
3/1/2019 02:15:16 pm

I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to donate without the backer rewards, and even then there is ...

(At this point I was about to say you have a merch shop which you could use to sell the typical type of backer reward extra stuff if people really wanted it, but it seems to be offline) ...

You could set up a merch shop for those kinds of items, if people REALLY want them.

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lilock
3/1/2019 02:29:37 pm

I'm not fussed about physical rewards for backers (limited physical space...), but digital rewards go down just as well. Stuff like the Man's Daddy's joke book. Even extra content, behind the scenes stuff or extended cuts (Have I Got a Bit More Digitiser for You), even if it's a bit rough and ready.

Have to say though, the show is what people are ultimately after, any extras are just that...extras.

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Clive link
3/1/2019 02:48:36 pm

Certainly in for chipping in a few bob to help get S2 on its way. Bollocks to having physical rewards.

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Paul Watson
3/1/2019 02:49:04 pm

I'd back series 2 without a physical reward on offer.

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Catroaster
3/1/2019 02:50:29 pm

I backed series 1 for the show itself and loved what I got. I will back series 2 on the same basis as well - no need for you to offer any shiny stuff

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Paul
3/1/2019 02:51:07 pm

I backed both Found footage, Digitiser and have made a very small subscription for most of the period of your website, bought t-shirts stickers and even a mug.

I like to receive a bit of tat.

I would back Series 2 without any physical reward but it probably wouldn't be at the same level that I backed the other projects. I'd quite happily spend the difference on something from your website though.

I accept it's a pain sorting out all the rewards though but I'm not sure how you get the amount of cash you need to fund this out of a large group of people without offering a structured offer with various levels of rewards to give incentives to pledge a bit more than they might have first thought of giving. Digital and download rewards instead might be an alternative for only a bit more effort than the regular updates that you send out.

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Mr Biffo
3/1/2019 03:43:34 pm

If we raise less as a result - which is entirely expected tbh - that, for me, outweighs the additional hassle, and part of why I mentioned looking at doing the same, but with a lower budget. But yes, we'd still plan reward tiers, just not things we'd have to post out.

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Paul
3/1/2019 04:31:16 pm

That seems like a perfectly reasonable proposal and a lot less hassle for you. I look forward to backing it.

Sam Patel
3/1/2019 03:48:19 pm

I'd happily back without being rewarded with clutter that'll end up being left somewhere in the house where the wife will eventually ask why I have it and tell me to throw it away causing me to move it to another part of the house.... So ummm yeah.

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Adam
3/1/2019 04:15:54 pm

I will gladly put up cash for a reward-free campaign. Heck, I enjoyed the show so much that I would donate right now to a crowdfunding campaign designed purely to pay you back for the money you put in out of your own pocket.

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Pubtubr
3/1/2019 04:17:29 pm

As someone who works in TV broadcasting, I think it would only cause you more headaches to get a production company involved in Series 2. Too many cooks in the kitchen, and I've seen many companies badly mismanage their project budgets, especially when it comes to post-production, and I'm sure they couldn't have achieved what you did with the budget you had for Series 1.

I think 70/30 on crowd-funding and sponsorship would be best, so you can bump up the budget with a games-type sponsor but you're not beholden to them entirely to do everything they want as they aren't the majority investor, but the fans are.

I backed you on the 1st series with a physical reward but would be happy to do it again without one for sure, especially if it takes time and focus away from what we actually want to see - the show!

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Jam
3/1/2019 04:38:10 pm

Loved the first series. Would happily back the second without physical rewards.

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Bunty
3/1/2019 05:07:18 pm

I would 100% back another kickstarter for series 2 with no physical reward. I couldn't even tell you what the rewards were for series 1, I just wanted the show and my name in the credits 😁

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DEAN
3/1/2019 05:14:10 pm

Physical rewards would have no influence on me.

But I think the answer is staring you in the face - people want to be in the show? Stick them in - a backer only live show with lots of participation and a chance to hang out and take selfies with the stars of the show - I reckon that would be a real driver.

A VIP experience where they get to spend a day on the set whilst filming...

There's loads you could do that would achieve everything that everyone wants - namely no post office faffing and lots of opportunity to be involved in some way.

A lottery system to be a guest on the Mockity-Moc game - bid the fuck out of it on eBay or something.

I think there's plenty of cool ways you could go about crowd funding.

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Self-funding is not very bright at this point - needs a lot more building.

Sponsorship seems unlikely at a realistic level right now - it'd essentially equate to a charitable act!

I don't know anything about broadcasters but my gut feeling is FUCK THAT.

I think if you're looking for an angel investor then you need to approach some of your erstwhile contacts from your more games-focused days - it's the best shot you have. But I know you hate doing things like that and won't so, Mr B, you're gonna be crowd-funding the fucker again!
I think that's great and hope you work around the physical reward piss around with more crowd-pleasing ideas like the ones I've suggested - more fun for everyone!!!!?!

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Mr Biffo
3/1/2019 05:45:09 pm

Nope! No bloody way to the people paying to be in the show. Not in a million years. I always remember reading an interview with someone - it was a magician or a stand-up comedian - saying that the people they choose from the audience to interact would never the desperate ones putting their hand up going "Me! Me! Me!". Because they're going to be the ones who fuck up the show.

Not naming names, but I had a similar experience on Found Footage, and it backfired (and the person in question didn't end up in the show - so you're not going to be able to work out who I'm talking about).

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DEAN
3/1/2019 07:51:12 pm

You sound on the fence!

I kinda agree and disagree with that - you're not talking some random person - you're talking your hardcore from the Digi community.

I mean, from an egalitarian stand point, fair enough, but.... call me naive but I can't see what could possibly wrong?

You bugger, you! That was a masterful sowing of intrigue by your fair hand, sir! Without naming names, care to dish the dirt on what shit went down?!

Mr Biffo
3/1/2019 08:57:12 pm

Without having to go into all the pros and cons... they're mostly cons from a production standpoint, and I think everyone on the production would agree with me.

Big Steve
3/1/2019 05:37:27 pm

Could always send a grant funding application to the Arts Council. I think Digi qualifies as visual arts.

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Sam
3/1/2019 06:05:42 pm

Hello Mr Biffo, I would definitely back series 2 for no reward but seeing series 2 get made

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Another Adam
3/1/2019 06:13:51 pm

Physical rewards are a nice thing to have (I love getting something that I can fondle) but they’ve never been the be all & end all of any decision I’ve made to back a project. If I’m backing something that doesn’t have a physical end product then I don’t need something extra to sweeten the deal (which from scanning the comments seems to be how a lot of us feel).

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Kalmar
3/1/2019 06:40:29 pm

Hi Paul, loved the show, would be more than happy to bung in a donation for the next one and don’t care about extras / rewards etc - that’s not why I’ve donated in the past and if I’m brutally honest I don’t really want to watch sneak previews or get some physical keepsake anyway.
Cheers and happy New Years!

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Hsmptonoid
3/1/2019 07:10:00 pm

However you do it, then I'm in. The rewards are a bonus, but not a requirement for me. Series 1 was well worth the investment!

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Dan Rushton
3/1/2019 07:59:40 pm

I'd definitely back season 2 with no physical reward!

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Abi
3/1/2019 08:34:54 pm

I would happily back series 2 with no physical reward (and hopefully my payment would go through this time)! Loved series 1, very happy to hear that there's more in the pipeline.
Just for the record, I don't want to appear in series 2.

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James
3/1/2019 08:38:48 pm

I 100% would back a second series without rewards

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Irregular Shed
3/1/2019 11:20:44 pm

Just you and your wife... Here's a leftfield suggestion: polygamy.

(Backed, got worried but stuck with it, bloody loved it, 10/10 would back again.)

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Wagoo link
4/1/2019 03:51:03 am

Yes, I would. But I can’t help feeling that dealing with T-Shirts/USB sticks and such is something some company must have setup to handle for Kickstarter projects and such by now? A survey to confirm addresses before shipping then giving that list to someone else to handle the distribution seems like it’d be a thing that exists..

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Rex Colgrove
4/1/2019 04:15:39 am

Swell job, lads and lasses. I'd be glad to shift some dosh your way to keep the gaffs afloat.

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Euphemia link
4/1/2019 07:35:58 am

Would gladly back for more shows, and no physical copies. More vomit, please. And retching. And those stupid fucking trousers.

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Matthew Smith link
4/1/2019 10:21:40 am

I think you're very much on the right track with the idea of doing a crowdfunder with digital bonuses only. I love behind-the-scenes extras and commentaries and suchlike, and I'd be more than happy to pledge extra money to obtain them as downloadable goodies rather than on a DVD or a memory stick or whatever. Heck, perhaps one such bonus could be a high-res image file that people could print out to make their own DVD case!

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B3tan_Tyronne
4/1/2019 11:19:39 am

I. like a good many did not back the first series but I would back the second in a heartbeat. In the comments to the other episodes,I have said time and time again that it has been ages since a show has left me in tears of laughter by the end of it and for that reason alone I would back the next one...and the one after that etc.
Please, please, please keep the show in your own hands and go down the sponsorship/crowd funding route and leave production companies at bay as once they get their hands on Digi the soul would go if anything just to please advertisers.
As for the rewards, I would rather the money actually go towards the show and I too would be happy not to receive anything else as for me the show is the paramount thing and just knowing that I have helped in some small way would be more than enough for me.

Just point me in the direction of where I need to send the cash :)

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Gareth
4/1/2019 06:26:19 pm

I thought the show was great. I didn't know about it first time round and would love a chance to support it this time. The output of the show is the reward.

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Adam Villarreal
4/1/2019 06:44:33 pm

I think as long as you remain transparent, the community who loves this show would back it without physical rewards, myself included. The reward for supporting the show *is* the show as you say.

I only found out about this through Octav1ous pretty the day of episode one's launch and found it to be quite special, filling a void in my YouTube diet I didn't know needed filling. Have faith in the fans who have faith in the show: we'll take care of you as long as you remain honest.

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Matthew Long
4/1/2019 11:26:09 pm

As much as I love having physical copies of the programmes/films I care about, the most important thing is the existence of more seasons of the show, so I would definitely contribute to another Kickstarter campaign without needing a reward. I've loved every episode of the first series and can't wait for more!

It might be nice if, at some point in the future, DVD/USB copies of the show could be sold through the Digitiser store at a price that guarantees a profit, rather than a drain on the series' budget, though.

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Captain Crumblechops
5/1/2019 03:55:31 am

Missed backing Series1, would back Series 2 without receiving anything physical in a heartbeat. Just your time, love and appreciation is enough Bigfoot.

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Stinky. Root
5/1/2019 09:40:52 am

I backed both found footage and digitiser the show because I wanted to see what you could produce, the rewards were not really an incentive for me. I've thoroughly enjoyed both shows, so yes, I'd be happy to contribute to a second series with no rewards.

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Grumpyfen
5/1/2019 11:12:15 am

Another one for the pile: backed the (excellent) series 1, will definitely back series 2 and no need at all for physical awards. Topping up the budget with sponsorship makes perfect sense.

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The Man Who Will Bust You Two Time
5/1/2019 08:41:55 pm

Didn't back Season One because I wasn't aware of it. Would happily back Season Two as a thank you for Season One and to help the magnificent brute continue.

No interest in physical reward tat anyway. I love throwing stuff away.

Idea: a reward tier could allow people to submit a photo of themselves (their bums) that would be screened at the end of the show in a high speed flickbook stylee (as you did with the names at the end of Season One episodes). This would be low on admin/editing for someone and would please those who want to be a part of the show, without having them on set cluttering the place up and stealing mementos.

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Dunc
5/1/2019 09:17:31 pm

I'd like to add to the long list of backing without wanting or expecting a reward! Just knowing I'd be helping get the next series made is kind of a reward in of itself. Or is kindness supposed to be the reward? I dunno but I'd back it anyway

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Temporarily Flush link
5/1/2019 11:28:24 pm

No physical reward required. I was a bit nervous about the show but loved it and am eager to see more. Quick, set up the kickstarter while I still have the funds! As many eps as possible, because six weeks went by way too fast.

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laird
6/1/2019 12:13:03 am

Loved the series , More than happy to back vol.2

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Stew Atwill
7/1/2019 07:47:11 am

I missed being able to donate first time around, and its possible I'm an outlier, but I'd happily donate for series 2 without any kind of physical reward. The content was great and any more would be its own reward. Id rather the extra effort went into the show than posting out fluff.
If some unobtrusive sponsorship helps with Mr Gannon's costume budget as well, all the better ;)

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Paul Sumner
9/1/2019 09:26:28 pm

I was a backer and would pay again for no physical rewards, I wish I'd originally pledged more so I could get the bonus episode, that would be enough for me to pledge more.

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